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You’re listening to the Cornwall Cancer Cafe podcast. With me, Matthew Clarke. And me, Emma Coombe.
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Thanks to the National Lottery Community Fund for supporting this podcast. And yes, National
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Lottery, not National Trust as I have said in previous times, National Lottery Community Fund,
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thank you very much. And they do so much good work for charities and organisations like us
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in fundraising where people go and buy a scratch card or a lottery ticket and end up helping things
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like Cornwall Cancer Cafe podcast. Emma, have you ever done fundraising before?
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Yes, I’ve been involved in some fundraising events. Sadly, a friend of mine died recently
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and her memoriam was a great big musical event where we raised nearly £6,000. It went to
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lots of people supported it. There was music, there was an auction, there was a raffle,
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there were collections, there was guess the name of the doll. There was all sorts going on.
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So many people put in so much effort to raise this money. I’m also in various bands
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because I’m a saxophone player and we’re often asked to play at charity events. So
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yeah, as a musician, it’s great to be involved in fundraising events.
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And that’s what we’re talking about this week. Fundraising will be speaking to someone who
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does that in the South West for Macmillan. And of course, Macmillan every year do a coffee
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morning, a chance for you to stuff your face full of cake. I mean, it’s a great event.
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Have you been to one of those? I haven’t, but I think we need to do one.
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Well, this September we’ll be talking more with Leanne Thomas about this because Leanne
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Thomas is our guest and she is involved with fundraising in the South West for Macmillan.
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So let’s hear from Leanne about that job that she does about fundraising for Macmillan.
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So I’m a relationship fundraising manager for Macmillan Cancer Support and I have the
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privilege of working with the people that make the services we offer possible by
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fundraising. So that might be individuals, groups, committees, businesses. I’m their
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direct contact, try to make it as easy as phone as smooth as possible for them,
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make sure they know how grateful we are. It’s a really, really lovely job.
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So what sort of patch do you work in? It’s not just Cornwall, is it?
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I’m in a team of five and there’s four relationship fundraising managers and we’re
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seeing the South West, which in Macmillan terms means from the bottom of Cornwall up
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to kind of Bristol way all across to Southampton. So it’s quite a big patch.
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So a little bit travelling, that’s all right. Living in Cornwall, used to that.
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And it’s a very big patch, isn’t it? So keeping on top of everything that you need
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to keep on top of across that area must be a big challenge.
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It is. I mean, we’re just lucky that we live in kind of a virtual world now. It’s so much
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easier to speak to people from like big distances through video camera and phone calls. And
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yeah, so I mean, there’s still a lot of mileage that happens, but yeah,
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we’re quite lucky that we can just kind of video call now.
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It sort of makes you feel a bit more connected to people far away,
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despite like hundreds of miles between you. So yeah, that makes life a lot easier.
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So I’m going to now put myself in the position of either someone
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who has a cancer diagnosis or maybe their family or a friend, and they want to do some
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fundraising. So just give me an idea of how that happens.
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I think it’s quite natural. I certainly, you know, like I felt like that when something
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happened that’s impacted you or someone you love in such a big way. You want to help,
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you want to do something. And I think particularly with cancer, sometimes the people that
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love you, you know, feel like they want to do more and they sometimes might feel a little
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bit helpless. So I think fundraising is such an amazing way and very positive way to take
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all that love you have for someone and show them that support or show the world how loved
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someone is or was. So it’s quite, I don’t want to say common, but it’s very special when people
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do approach us wanting to show support by fundraising because it’s this lovely,
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beautiful circle of love, essentially. You know, we might have provided help for them
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and in turn they want to help someone else.
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Yes, I suppose that a lot of people want to do something to help a friend or a member of
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family who has just been diagnosed with cancer and they don’t know really what to do. And
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fundraising is actually something very constructive they can do just to show that
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they are thinking of that friend or member of their family.
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Exactly. I think that’s the main reason a lot of people decide to fundraise is they just
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really want to show support to people that are going through a cancer experience or
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maybe specifically to a loved one, as I say, because they’re not sure how else they can
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support in such a difficult situation. And it’s so effective. And when people
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rally around someone to fundraise to give to such a good cause, that person that it might be
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in reflection for, you know, you just know they’re feeling the love.
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So it’s such a nice thing to be a part of. And everyone does it differently.
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And, you know, depending on who they are or what they’re able to do,
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that’s one of the best bits I love about my role is the different challenges people present
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themselves with or fundraising ideas, because you just never know what’s going to be in your
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inbox to help someone accomplish. And in doing this job, what have you
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learned about how people go through a cancer experience or what they go through in their lives?
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I think it’s a case of, I mean, it might sound a little bit blanket, but everyone
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copes with their situation very differently. Obviously, the people that I speak to and work
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alongside have decided to try and focus their situation on fundraising or spreading awareness.
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And of course, there’s no right or wrong way to cope with these kind of situations.
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So, yeah, I guess it’s just a case of taking each person as they are and as they come.
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And some people are very open about what they’ve gone through when they decide to fundraise or
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whom they might be doing it for and other people, not so much.
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So, yeah, just situation by situation, really.
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You must have come across quite a few different types of fundraising
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over the time you’ve been doing it. So just give me an idea of something that
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you might have thought, oh, I didn’t expect someone to do that type of fundraising for
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I just love people’s imaginations. It’s just an array of beautiful ideas.
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And we’ve had everything you can think of. Recently, one of my colleagues supported a
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gentleman and his friend who rode penny farthings, you know, the massive wheel things,
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yeah, penny farthings from, oh, good, I’m not sure where from, but all the way to Paris
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from somewhere in the UK, so hundreds of miles, a huge challenge.
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Did he fall off?
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I don’t think so. They’re so skilled on them, honestly.
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And what they were like these like old school Safari outfits as well.
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So the attention they get is incredible. And so it’s fantastic for awareness.
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What was really nice is, you know, they went over to Paris and our brand
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was was still known there, which is amazing because it just shows how far our reach is
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And then, I mean, honestly, everything I worked with a gentleman called Richard
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recently from Bodmin and he drove an electric car on his own, all the way to the most northern
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point of Europe, thousands of miles.
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Did he get range anxiety?
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I don’t know. What’s that?
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Well, it’s where you’re always worried you’re going to run out of electricity
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on your journey.
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Oh, good. Yeah, probably did, you know, but it was really good
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because Octopus Energy sponsored him.
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So he was able to, he planned meticulously. He was very, very organised.
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So, yeah, probably he did have that prior.
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That’s a great thing you’ve mentioned there, Octopus Energy there,
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because obviously they’ve sponsored something with Macmillan.
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Do you get a lot of big businesses and organisations sponsoring things?
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You do and you don’t. It’s a bit of a mixed bag.
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I think, you know, it’s one of those things where if you don’t ask, you don’t get it.
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Definitely you learn that in fundraising, like you can’t be afraid of rejection
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in fundraising because most people you’ll find want to help.
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And if they do say no, it’s just genuinely because they can’t
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and it’s not because they don’t want to
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and that they don’t appreciate what you’re doing.
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So most people are happy to learn what you’re doing
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and if they can help, they will.
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So, yeah, mixed bag, really.
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Sometimes you get people that have been in hundreds of people’s inboxes
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and so they come back.
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Other people understandably are a little bit more reserved
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approaching people and businesses.
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And again, that’s fine.
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Everyone’s got their own way of fundraising.
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So, yeah, kind of mixed bag.
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So you get a lot of runners sort of going on marathons
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and people sort of think, what can I do with my interest or hobby to raise money?
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I mean, I am into music and I arranged a concert.
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So is that something that happens a lot?
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Yeah, yeah.
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And to be honest, that’s one of the
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you see a lot of successful events coming off the back of people doing that
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because if you’ve already got an invested interest in something
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or already got a passion, chances are you’ve got a network there.
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You’ve got doors that are probably already open.
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People around you that want to support you.
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So, yeah, often if someone’s in a football club or rugby club,
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as you say yourself, you’re in the music circle.
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Often that’s the first route people will go fundraising wise
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because, you know, fundraising, I’m not saying it’s easy,
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but it’s a little bit easier when you’ve already got some doors open for you.
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But often it branches from there.
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So people might start from there, but, you know,
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they get such a good feeling from having fundraisers
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that usually that’s the first thing they do.
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And then they’ll start getting more experienced
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and then they’ll delve into something they might not be as familiar with.
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Yeah, who knows where it might lead.
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I have to say that when I was in treatment,
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I did notice when people were raising money for cancer related concerns
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and charities, including Macmillan,
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and it did sort of give me a sort of a warmness of support
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to know that there were people out there who cared enough about
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things like what I was going through to put their efforts
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and their money into such a fundraising activity.
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Oh, I love that.
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Yeah, then that’s exactly what it is.
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It’s just it sounds cheesy, but it is just a big support network and group.
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And yeah, anyone that is going through their cancer experience right now,
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like that’s such a good message, Matthew.
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I’m glad you said that because there is so many people behind them
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doing what they can doing, unimaginable challenges
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and, you know, really pushing themselves.
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It is all motivated by supporting you
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or anyone that is living with cancer right now.
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And that’s what they’re motivated by.
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You know, you’re surrounded by love, even if you don’t know it.
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And when we talk on this podcast, we always say that
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we just want to give a big virtual hug to anyone who’s listening,
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because when you are going through cancer,
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it is just so supportive to get that love
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and that hug in whatever way it’s given.
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Yeah, and the best way that I could do that is, yeah,
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to really emphasise how much support is going on behind the scenes
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to make that support possible.
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I mean, I can’t speak highly enough of our professionals on the frontline
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who you might see face to face or perhaps speak to over the phone.
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They’re absolute angels on this earth,
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but there are so many more behind the scenes that you might not see
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that are sending you so much love and, you know, good vibrations.
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And as I say, you know, they’re taking on all kinds of challenges
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to make sure that the support you need is available
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and you might never meet them or hear their names,
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but they are there and they are doing their best for you.
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So the love is there.
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So I hope that everyone’s feeling it.
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Now, here’s something.
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When I was going through my treatment for non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma,
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I found that despite how awful cancer is and the treatment can be,
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there was some good sides in that there were so many wonderful people
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working to make you better, to support you,
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to raise money for cancer support that it gave you a really warm feeling
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that made things so, so much better.
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And yeah, one of the best parts about my role
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is exactly that the people you meet,
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they are angels on this earth from the fundraisers
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to the service professionals.
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Every age as well, you know, I met a six-year-old a few months ago
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who’s walked 100 miles in support of her grandmother.
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And just last month, I spoke to an amazing girl called Lily
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and she’s done Brave the Shave.
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So she’s actually shaved her hair off and she’s 15.
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So for a 15-year-old to do that, it’s so brave and incredible.
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And so, you know, it’s not just adults.
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It’s the children I get to meet.
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The children are inspiring me with this job.
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So it really does just remind you how much it just restores
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your faith in humanity, especially right now.
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You really need that.
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It does.
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Absolutely.
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Yeah.
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So 100%.
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Now, what if there are, listening to this,
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friends or members of a family of someone who’s had a cancer diagnosis
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and they want to do some fundraising?
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Let’s get some ideas, some tips.
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If you’re starting fresh and you know,
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you’ve not done this before perhaps,
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then one of the best ways you could fundraise for Macmillan
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and for people living with cancer is our coffee morning.
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It’s so popular.
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And it’s-
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It’s fantastic.
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And, you know, if you go on our website or Google Macmillan Cancer Support Coffee
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Morning, you’ll be taken straight to a link.
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You can sign up.
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We will send you a pack.
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It’s a really brilliant pack with bunting in.
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you know, greenify your day.
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Businesses do it.
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It’s incredibly popular.
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It’s a great way to get footfall through the door and, you know,
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show that you’re showing your support.
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So, you know, that’s a really good kind of gateway fundraising idea.
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And, you know, we’ve got people who’ve been doing coffee morning for decades every year.
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And who doesn’t love cakey tea?
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Yeah, it’s the best month of the year for people that work for Macmillan.
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So much coffee and cake.
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It’s amazing.
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So I’d say that’s a really nice place to start.
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But if you do go on our website, there’s lots of other ideas.
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If you do like your fitness and you’re looking for a fitness challenge,
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then, you know, there’s the marathons.
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We’ve got our mighty hikes.
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You don’t have to run these that you can walk them.
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And they’re fantastic days.
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I’ve volunteered at them.
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And, you know, at the end, you get your medal.
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And it’s actually quite emotional seeing people cross the line
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because you can see they’ve all got their different motivations.
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And, you know, people that they might have been doing it in support of
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are waiting for them at the finish line.
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And I actually found myself welling up at certain people when I’ve seen it.
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So, you know, that we’re trying to make it as easy as possible
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for you to support us so we can support people living with cancer.
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So I would definitely say our website is the best point of call.
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It should have tons of tons of ideas on there.
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But if you’ve got a specific idea and you don’t know where to start with it,
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well, that’s what I’m here for.
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Well, if people want to contact you,
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I’m sure that they can contact you through the cove, can’t they?
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So if you’re worried, but you want to do some of that.
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Yeah, as I say, that’s exactly what we’re here for.
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We’re here to support you, to support us, to support them.
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So, yeah, lots of ideas.
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And thank you, Leanne, for coming into the Cornwall Cancer Cafe podcast studio
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to chat to us about fundraising.
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So if people want to help out, they can contact you
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at the cove at the Royal Cornwall Hospital.
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Any last thoughts, Leanne?
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Everyone that supports Macmillan, we’re all coming from different places.
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We’ve all got different reasons,
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but we’ve all got this mutual common interest,
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which is we just want to show love and support
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to people going through cancer and going through a cancer experience.
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So that brings us all together.
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And I just want to reiterate, I just hope that the people
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that are receiving our services are feeling that love.
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You’re listening to the Cornwall Cancer Cafe podcast.
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Share this podcast on your social media so others may benefit.
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So you were listening to Leanne Thomas from Macmillan
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and she’s been talking to us about fundraising.
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Now, Emma, you were talking earlier on about gift aid.
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Just give us a bit more on that.
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So as people donate their moneys,
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if you are a taxpayer, a UK taxpayer, if you tick the gift aid box,
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the charity can then claim 20% back off the government.
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I believe it’s 20% anyway.
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It might be more. Wouldn’t it be good if it was more?
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But we want that money back off the government and supporting us.
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Indeed we do.
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But I think at the moment, we ought to actually just say
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that neither Emma or myself are experts, financial experts.
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We don’t give any advice on money.
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That’s for you to find yourself.
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And also we might as well say at this juncture
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that neither Emma or myself are medical experts or psychology experts.
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So we’re not trained as consultants, doctors, nurses,
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counsellors or anything like that.
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We are doing this from the point of view
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of people who have a lived experience of cancer.
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And so now, Emma, I’m just thinking about sort of things
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we could do for fundraising.
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And you like your diving, don’t you?
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Is there any way we could wrap that into this?
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I don’t really know how you would get someone to sponsor you
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because you don’t want to stay underwater for too long.
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Maybe you could do the most perfect dive profile.
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I don’t know.
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What’s a dive profile?
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So it’s when you would…
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Oh, I don’t really know.
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It’s technical.
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I’ve just made that up, really, I think.
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What a great term, dive profile.
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Is that real?
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Let’s make it a thing.
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And I can get people to sponsor me to go for a scuba dive,
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which I’d be quite happy to do anytime.
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I have to say that one of my passions in life is languages.
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And I was just wondering if we could do something with spoonerisms.
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Oh dear, what are you going to come out with now?
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Duba-skiving.
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Okay, no worries.
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Let’s move on.
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So I saw that whilst listening to Leanne there,
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you were scribbling a lot of notes.
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Just give me some thoughts there.
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Yeah, the big one I picked up on was about,
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this is something loved ones can do when they feel that
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they’re struggling to support you personally,
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emotionally, whatever.
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Fundraising is something that they can do.
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They can use their talents.
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They can raise some money.
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And by raising the money, that goes to the Macmillan,
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which then goes to the Cove.
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And we’ve already discussed how amazing the Cove is
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because those guys are trained and it’s a safe space for us.
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So actually in doing some fundraising,
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they are helping us in a way that we need.
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So yeah, that’s what I picked up.
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And it’s not only the Cove as well.
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There are lots of other things such as
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therapeutic events such as at the Pottershire Garden
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in Constantine or the Wounder Therapy Garden
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or other things like pottery,
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all sorts of things, aren’t there?
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I mean, some of the courses that they courses,
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they’re not really courses, are they?
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Opportunities.
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Courses for horses.
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That’s it.
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They’ll do six-week opportunity session
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where you can go and experience everything from a massage
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to a walk, as you mentioned,
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or at Pottershire, which is a garden near Constantine.
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It’s a fabulous place.
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Lovely cafe there, by the way.
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Just a bit of a shout out.
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I think they’re open to the public
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between Thursdays and Sundays, I believe.
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But they do this experience where you sort of go
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behind the scenes and you can plant things
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or not plant things.
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But look at bugs.
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You just sort of get involved in the background.
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So that’s Pottershire.
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they can find a program we did about the Pottershire
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and Mark Harris online.
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Lovely Mark, yes, who I looked at some bugs
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under a microscope with him.
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Because you said you weren’t into gardening.
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I’m more into pollinators, which then made him
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have a little think about, oh, what can we look at?
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she was saying about some of the fundraising things
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that had come along.
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And she mentioned that someone did fundraising
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by doing a penny-farthing cycle,
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which is something which surprised her.
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A penny-farthing is a very specialist thing.
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If you’re someone that can play guitar and sing,
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you might do a gig in an afternoon.
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Or if you’re a fantastic baker,
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you might do a little bake sale.
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have bits and pieces for sale that crafters have made.
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So you don’t have to be super duper,
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you don’t have to do a skydive
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unless you really want to.
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And it’s a good excuse to do it.
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But they don’t have to be enormous things.
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oh, I can do this.
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And then someone else will go, oh, I can do that.
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And you end up doing a whole day’s event
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where there’s all sorts of, I don’t know,
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music and craft and all sorts happening.
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But again, you don’t have to do anything that big.
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You could just do a sponsored silence.
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Emma, you’re kicking the studio apart.
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But I was going to suggest, Matthew,
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you could do a sponsored silence.
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Oh, thank you.
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That goes in my little black book.
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I suppose the short of it, though,
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is that people can just go to Macmillan
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and just talk to them about it.
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Yeah, or even talk to your friends and family.
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Just say to someone, you know,
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I want to do a fundraiser,
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but I don’t know what to do.
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Someone’s bound to say, oh, yeah,
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but you’re really good at football or,
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or I don’t know, you’re good at wiggling your ears.
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You know, you could wiggle your ears for half an hour
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or I don’t know, anything.
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Such a good idea.
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It’s also a good point now to say
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there are other cancer charities to raise money for.
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There’s cancer research.
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There’s all sorts of other things like lymphoma action.
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So have a think about those as well.
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There’s Cancer Support UK.
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Mark Geimer is the CEO.
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We’ve had him on the programme
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and they do care packages.
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They get soft toys for children in hospital with cancer
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and they also train up cancer coaches as well.
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Actually, you saying about a cancer care package.
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My first treatment that I had in the Headland Centre,
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I was presented with a care package
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and it absolutely took all of the,
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all of the negative feelings I was having about being there.
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And I just thought this was such an amazing thing.
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I mean, there was all sorts of bits and pieces in there,
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obviously sponsored by lots of different businesses.
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There was a pair of socks.
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There was a toothbrush.
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There was hand cream.
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There was chocolate.
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There was some crisps and there was pill boxes.
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There was all sorts in there,
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but it really made a difference to my first time.
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I was so nervous the first time I went there
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and to actually, you know, it was almost a distraction,
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but I was absolutely blown away with what was in this box.
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I suppose it’s also worth mentioning that
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businesses take a big part in raising money and doing events.
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I went to Hiddy Park Golf Club a little while ago
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and gave a talk there about cancer.
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That was arranged by Leanne.
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Yes, there were people from Rotary there
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who were organising things and raising money
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and playing golf just to get some cash in for Macmillan.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And there’s the Masons out there as well.
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I know that they do a lot of fundraising.
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Yeah, so anybody out there looking for a theme
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or looking for a group to fundraise for, choose us.
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Visit our website, www.cancercafepodcast.org.
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So it was great talking to Leanne there.
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And I’m sure we will be telling you about
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some of the fundraising initiatives that Macmillan are doing.
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And if you’ve got any events to flag up
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which help the cancer community,
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then tell us because we’ve got a diary on our website
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that we can put the events on.
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And that just says go across to cancercafe.org
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or you can put in cancercafepodcast.org
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if you feel like it.
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Both go to the same website.
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Also, go to our page on Facebook and follow that
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so that you can see podcasts come up and other items.
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So are you on that page?
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I am on that page. I do follow that page.
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I think it might be an admin on that page,
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but I definitely follow it.
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Oh, well, that’s brilliant. I’m glad you do.
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Now, we’ve got to this point of the programme
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where we are just making sure that everyone is aware
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that I’m not a doctor. Are you a doctor?
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I’m not a doctor. No, I’m not a specialist.
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I’m not a clinician. I’m not a dietitian.
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I’ve got no speciality knowledge,
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but we are living with cancer, lived with cancer.
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That’s our speciality.
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It is. So we’re coming at the whole issue
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from people with lived experience.
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But we do occasionally talk to people who are experts.
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So we have an upcoming podcast with another expert.
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We’ll tell you more about that later at some other juncture.
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And now it’s the most important part of the podcast
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where we talk about a very good thing for well-being.
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Well-being, yes. We want to give you a big hug
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because when you give a hug, you get a hug.
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Oh, but it is important, isn’t it?
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Oh, yeah, definitely.
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Whenever we meet, we always give each other a hug,
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don’t we?
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Yes, it is. We don’t shake hands.
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No, I don’t think we’ve ever shaken hands, have we?
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Okay. Well, thank you for listening to the podcast.
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Share it on your social media if you feel able to
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tell other friends about the Cornwall Cancer Cafe podcast
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so that they may benefit if they need to.
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And we will be back with you again next week.
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Bye.
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Bye. Big hugs.
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Thanks to the National Lottery Community Fund
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for supporting this podcast.